tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post2914673462379784323..comments2022-12-12T03:00:07.288-08:00Comments on The Edtech Curmudgeon: LMS Futures: Revolutionary Change via Student-Centered LMSambermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18425276052810373738noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-63520981421209444932015-08-01T08:26:26.199-07:002015-08-01T08:26:26.199-07:00I am hoping,, although unsaid, that this includes ...I am hoping,, although unsaid, that this includes a lot of student research abd problem solving. I am in full agreement with what has been said so far,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00643454453691524501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-50778027036525834122014-08-13T06:02:38.256-07:002014-08-13T06:02:38.256-07:00Hi Michael 2x ;D,
As former student and founder a...Hi Michael 2x ;D,<br /><br />As former student and founder a dutch startup - born out of frustration over issues like these, I can acknowledge the need for a more student-centric approach in the technology and education itself. With Projectcampus we are building an online learning environment specifically for project-based learning, which is already more student-centric by default (compared to exam or lecture-oriented courses). And because it is more student-centric, the typical LMS doesn't support it very well either. Yes, they have group support and discussion boards, but just like Laura Gibbs indicated, students and event teachers are not very impressed by their functionality as they are always behind on tools focused on just this. As a result, project-based education equals a lot of different tools outside of the LMS, many emails, paper and weekly meetings. <br /><br />With Projectcampus we try to solve this using interactive project pages (think blog or facebook page) where each student or team can easily collaborate and show their progress privacy friendly to their coaches/teachers, fellow students or even others. Project pages are connected to course pages (used to share/discuss course-related information). In addition, since the progress is 'connected' but not stored in the course (which is the case in most LMS), the projects can live on after the course finished. This also makes it easy to automatically build up a student project portfolio.<br /><br />We also agree that students and teachers should be helped to use their own tools by their university (instead of pushed back). However, we also believe that teachers and university should have some control and monitoring over the tools and some kind of middle ground for communication. We try to combine both these goals by connecting/integrating tools like Google Drive, Dropbox, Trello, Google Calendar and more.<br /><br />About where the LMS might go: We think they should become frameworks or foundations on top of which tools like Projectcampus can be built using LTI2 and other standards (xAPI). They keep doing what they did best: learning management and administration, storage of important data (which becomes an increasing issue if you use different cloud tools), only the student user sees nothing of this anymore. This is done by the tools on top of it.<br /><br />Hope this contributes to the discussion. If you are interested to have a look at Projectcampus let me know. We would love to have your input on it and whether it can be a fit in the US as well (we expect there to be less project-base education?). <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06986597497948634201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-44530373076533583202014-08-11T08:45:41.111-07:002014-08-11T08:45:41.111-07:00Michael, thanks for the tip, I'll be intereste...Michael, thanks for the tip, I'll be interested to take a look at it.ambermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18425276052810373738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-3552122914717843472014-08-11T08:34:00.857-07:002014-08-11T08:34:00.857-07:00The user, groups, and roles structure in Apereo OA...The user, groups, and roles structure in Apereo OAE actually look a lot like this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-86096631796888953942014-08-10T17:51:24.473-07:002014-08-10T17:51:24.473-07:00Bring on the snowball I say!!!
Let it snow, let i...Bring on the snowball I say!!! <br />Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow. :-)Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-29006972507261777262014-08-10T15:10:27.026-07:002014-08-10T15:10:27.026-07:00Thanks Laura. Sometimes I have wondered whether I ...Thanks Laura. Sometimes I have wondered whether I should bother with this because it seems so obvious to me, but my little LMS Futures project is doing 2 things - reaching at least a few people for whom taking a student-centric approach is NOT so obvious, and second, re-enforcing so many educators like you who have figured this out on your own. If I can add a just a few flakes to what I hope will become a snowball of change then I'll feel like it was worth it. ambermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18425276052810373738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7688749700610571550.post-10004772415336925362014-08-10T14:58:02.447-07:002014-08-10T14:58:02.447-07:00YES!!! Exactly!!!! In a sense, this is already wit...YES!!! Exactly!!!! In a sense, this is already within our power by encouraging students to use tools to build their own online presence in a course and to create/control/share their own content. So, your post comes at just the moment when I am revamping/expanding the Tech Tips for my students, making sure they will feel comfortable and confident blogging their class assignments, creating a website for their class project, perhaps opting to use Twitter and/or Pinterest to connect in other ways with members of the class, sharing class content that way... and on and on.<br />Does Desire2Learn help me to do any of that? Nope, none of it.<br />But thank goodness for all the great tools we can use. When I first started teaching online in 2002, it was a struggle just to help students figure out how to publish their websites online (but we did it... thanks to Netscape Composer and the 3MB of webspace provided for students at my school).<br />So, when I think about my "class," what I see is what the students are doing: the websites they are creating, the content they are sharing in their blogs (and, this semester, via Twitter and Pinterest also)... THAT is the class. My role is just to make all that happen, providing a structure, tips, encouragement (LOTS of encouragement).<br />A class in D2L does not even look like a class to me. Where are the students? The discussion board just does not work for me, exactly because it is not student-centered. Giving up discussion boards for blogs (which I did years and years ago) was one of the key steps in making my classes student-centric. For discussions, we need STUDENT-CENTERED discussions, something more like Google+ (where I participate in great discussions all the time)... not the clunky nightmare that is the typical LMS discussion forum.<br />So, thanks for this. Now we just have to figure out how the culture of teaching/learning will ever catch up with what the technology really does make possible now. :-)Laura Gibbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994025992373244815noreply@blogger.com